UFC 190 Feedback
Thumbs in the Middle: The card was too long and too old. I couldn’t watch half of the fighters without thinking how great their matches would have been 5…or 10 years ago.
Best Fight: REGINALDO VIEIRA VS. DILENO LOPES. Despite growing a bit restless, this was a good fight with a nice back and forth. I like watching Rousey win, but she didn’t have the best fight.
Worst Fight: GLAICO FRANCA VS. FERNANDO BRUNO. Awful fight. I don’t know where Bruno’s head was at and Franca took a long time to close the match (despite being given control repeatedly).
Other notes:
Production- The Silva v. Palelei finish didn’t look good. Couldn’t see what caused Palelei to shut down. Need a better replay, because it just looked like he stopped fighting and walked to the cage.
Production- Putting Ultimate Fighter finals in the middle was a bad idea. I watched people get restless.
It’s hard giving a fair thumbs up/thumbs down rating when 189 was so exceptionally good.
Missed opportunity: Rhonda should have approached the octagon in a kilt.
Nick Garcia
Columbus, Oh
@foothands
Thumbs Up
Best match: Nakamura vs Ishii
Worst match: Takahashi vs Kojima
From watching just the tournament matches this was the best night of the tournament so far.
Yujiro Takahashi vs Satoshi Kojima: Usual Takahashi match where it’s not that good but Kojima did his best. Outside interference from Cody Hall really ruined the match. Why there isn’t more DQs is confusing. ** 1/2
Karl Anderson vs Yuji Nagata: Good solid match. Great selling and psychology by Nagata focusing on his ribs which he injured in a previous match. Good finish with the Gun Stun Outta Nowhere. *** 3/4
Michael Elgin vs Tomoaki Honma: This was Elgin’s best match in Japan, maybe all year. Fantastic match with a hot crowd behind Honma. **** 1/4
Shinsuke Nakamura vs Tomohiro Ishii: Nakamura did well despite having his elbow all taped up. Not as good as their match last year but they tore it up. Outstanding match. One of the best matches of the tournament. **** 1/2
Hirooki Goto vs Kazuchika Okada: Another great match even following the previous two. Thought this was going to go to the time limit but a great outing by both guys and it’ll be interesting how the rest of the block will end up. ****
Josh Hayes
Hi Dave,
i’ll dive right in.
g1 – saturday – thumbs in the middle – best match – honma vs elgin. Honma is absolutely brilliant and elgin is doing really well in the g1. Great match with crowd totally into it.
worst match – anderson v nagata. i’m keeping the best/worst matches to the g1 matches only, otherwise it’d probably be a tag match here.
nakamura’s arm looked like it was hurting, bad times.
g1 sunday – thumbs up, no great matches but all the g1 matches were interesting to good(no great ones mind) but i enjoyed the show.
best match – this is a tough one as none stood out. probably ibushi/tenzan. ibushi is absolutely incredible, great selling in this.
worst match – this is also a tough one as all the matches were of a similar level… I’d prefer not to pick but if you put a gun to my head, probably aj v gallows because I wasn’t as into it as the rest of them, even with the story they told (props to shibata for putting a watchable match with fale on – i can’t vote a shibata match the worst one!)
ufc – thumbs down
boring night really. enjoyed the two womens fights the most.
best – ronda
worst – second ultimate fighter, the heavier weight class
thanks,
Steve Maginnis
ufc 190
thumbs in the middle
best fight REGINALDO VIEIRA VS. DILENO LOPES
i watched the show at hooters in Lexington, ky and it was super packed lots of people…very different crowed that normally shows up. Lots of older woman and younger woman athletes from surrounding collages, but there was lots of minorities. Very loud chants for ronda and cheers and claps when she won from everyone in the bar. the bar was very packed all night. The only thing that i can compare this crowed two was a uk basketball game…those games draw a wide verity of people to the bars around town. It was not at all similar to the world cup that was lots of younger woman and there were very few minorities at those shows.
g1
thumbs up- for the most part (i have downed my expectations at this point)
Kota Ibushi- i love ibushi he has turned out to be one of my favorite guy’s with finn and owens (but they were always up there for me)
Togi Makabe vs. Tetsuya Naito
John Juett
I think this weekend really highlighted the issues with this year’s G1 format. We had a great set of tournament matches from the B Block on Saturday, followed by a lackluster set of matches from the A Block on Sunday. Having all G1 matches on the show would have remedied that problem and made for a great show where they could have had the A Block matches underneath the B Block, with the Goto vs Okada main event. As much as I do enjoy Yano’s heel tactics, I don’t feel that that should be main eventing a G1 show in a singles match.
Overall I’d have to give the G1 a thumbs up because I have been enjoying it, but having it so spread out with the blocks split up has taken away some of its aura. Hopefully next year they go back to all G1 cards. They should still spread out the days to help with recovery, but keep the entire focus on the G1.
Larry Huber Jr.
OK, so my 21-year old stepdaughter HATES MMA. To the point where she will go in the other room when she sees I am watching. HATES.
It just so happened she came home during the PPV on Saturday and stayed in the room because she was joining in the conversation we were having. In other words, not paying attention to the PPV. But when Ronda came on, everyone stopped talking and watched and after the fight my MMA hating stepdaughter said “I never thought I’d have a new hero who is an MMA fighter”
Mike DeGeorge
Hi Dave.
Thumbs up for the G1 show in Osaka. I haven’t managed to watch the undercard yet.
Best match: Kazuchika Okada vs. Hirooki Goto.
Kojima vs. Yujiro – ***1/4
Nagata vs. Anderson – ***
Honma vs. Elgin – ****1/4
Nakamura vs. Ishii – ****1/4
Okada vs. Goto – ****1/2
Thumbs in the Middle for G1 in Aichi.
Best matches: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Toru Yano and Tetsuya Naito vs. Togi Makabe
Worst match: Cody Hall and Yujiro vs. Jay White and Michael Elgin.
Ibushi vs. Tenzan – **3/4
Shibata vs. Fale – *3/4
Styles vs. Doc – **1/2
Naito vs. Makabe – ***3/4 (not at the level as their excellent G1 match last year)
Tanahashi vs. Yano – ***1/2
I couldn’t agree with you more regarding your tweets about Dana and the wrestling industry doing more harm than good when it comes to exposing the business. However, with the fans and workers not taking too kindly to Dana’s words, Jeremy Borash decided not to order UFC 190, but rather donate the money to ME and as a result blew up my Twitter feed! About 5 years ago, I got paralysed wrestling on a show here in the UK (story for another time). In a nutshell, I broke my neck and it left me in a bad state at that point. I’m doing a whole lot better now. Borash actually donated way more than $50 and someone else from the TNA office did so too. I got to know JB during TNA’s UK tour last year January through Rockstar Spud, who is a very good friend of mine. JB and I bonded over our love for the Howard Stern Show.
Keep up the great work, Dave. I just re-subscribed last night.
Nik